Clydesdale Media Podcast

We catch up with our dear friend Emily Rolfe.   After following her through last season it will be fun to catch up and see what changes she has made going into this season.  She is coming in, in the 3rd position at the North America West Semifinal

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welcome to the Clydesdale

media's semi-finalist

series this is our second

so far yesterday we

interviewed Scott Tetlow

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that out it's on YouTube

now and today we're

starting our all like I

think it's Canada Day here

at Clydesdale media our

first Canadian of three

today Emily Rolfe what's

going on Emily hello

Yeah.

We've been accused of being Canadian bias,

and we're really proving it today.

Who isn't?

We're so nice.

So I'm so excited to have

you on the show because

last year it was like we

talked every week.

We followed you through the whole season,

got to know you really well,

and this year I haven't got

to talk to you at all.

Yeah, I know.

I mean, it's kind of flown by, though,

you have to admit.

Yeah.

It is.

It almost feels compressed, but it's not.

Yeah.

Like quarterfinals are done

and semifinals are almost here.

Yeah,

I think last year quarters were right

after the Open and then

there was a long until

semis and now it's like the opposite.

We had a few lull weeks there and then,

yeah, quarters and go.

So there's a lot of noise

around quarterfinals this year.

Were you impacted by any of that,

like emotionally, mentally,

anything like that,

just trying to get through the week?

Or did you just ignore it

and figured you'd come out

on the other side?

A little bit of both.

I think, like everyone,

I kind of naively just put

in my scores and was like, okay, sweet,

done.

And then when all the

penalties started rolling out,

it was like, ooh.

Yeah.

And like everyone knows,

I redid that first workout

three times because I had video issues.

So the benefit of that was I

watched my first video until it cut out.

And yeah,

I just picked out a couple of

tweaks and was like,

some of those step ups,

like if they want to be really strict,

they could be.

And yeah,

so really it was a blessing that

I redid it because who knows,

I could have been...

could have been on the other

side of that so really

lucky there it was painful

at the time but I'm lucky

and so I i kind of want to

dive into that a little bit

you know carolyn privo is a

part of our thursday night

show now she said she did

that workout looked at it

and said if they want to be

strict they could they

could know rep me here and

she redid it as well and

thank goodness because now

you're both are sitting in

the top 10 going into semifinals

Do you review all your

videos or was it just

because you had the clock issue?

Yeah.

Well, from now on I will, but no,

usually I don't.

So usually,

which is crazy now that I think about it,

cause so much can go wrong.

Um, but no, usually I just upload it,

copy the link to my notes

and submit it when, you know, I,

I check to make sure it plays,

but I've never watched it fully through.

Um,

Um,

which is a lesson that now I will for

sure.

Do you think that changes

across the board for all athletes now?

I think a little bit for sure.

Um, and I think it was hard because, uh,

maybe the angles at what

people videoed out were

different and because there was no,

there was no guidelines there.

So I think that made it tough for people.

Um, yeah, it's just unfortunate situation,

but cause again, if you're competing live,

your judge tells you once you fix it,

you missed the one rep.

Like you didn't fly through

the workout and then get told after,

which,

Yeah,

I feel for the athletes that that

happened to.

It sucks.

So I've made an argument

that probably doesn't put

me on the popular side of the athletes.

I don't know.

But I've seen a lot of

really good athletes not

get moved forward because of crap videos.

Yeah.

And people who do not meet the standards,

then they get to semifinals

or the next live competition,

and they're incapable of

doing the work that's

required at that level.

Yeah.

So I think it's a good step

if we're going to go in

this direction consistently.

Yeah.

And across the board,

like I think they should

have had quarters right

after the open to give more

time for video review to

make sure all the videos got that review.

Yeah.

Cause yeah, people are complaining that,

Oh,

like they didn't even look at three

and four or some people did,

but it's like,

I think they say they're

only going to look at one.

I mean,

they obviously have to look at more

for the top 40,

but basically if you have a

test and there's four tests

and you don't know which

one they're going to review,

you best do well on all

four because you don't know.

And I think that's what they

kind of go for, but I don't know.

Yeah.

I wish we could give them

more time or more staff to

be able to do it because it seems silly.

It's like drug testing one

or two people on a team and

you're good to go if one or two pass.

Yeah.

You know,

that seems to happen a lot with CrossFit.

Mm-hmm.

So looking at your placings,

they've improved year over

year over year.

Mm-hmm.

What does that mean to you

when everybody around you

is improving and you're

improving at a level where

the leaderboard is showing

it year after year?

Yeah, it's very encouraging for sure.

That's kind of what keeps me going.

Like I just keep getting better and better,

which is, yeah, it's great.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean,

you're coming into the

semifinal in the third

position in the West.

That's the highest you've

ever entered semis.

Does that give you any confidence,

or do you just... Yeah, I think so.

I mean, we all know it doesn't matter.

You could come in the last

heat and make the games.

But yeah,

it does give you a bit of confidence,

and I think just this whole

year of training,

Kyle switched around a few things, and...

I think it's really, um, yeah,

I've really benefited from

it and it's been a hard year of training,

but a really good year.

And you yourself feel better

now than you have in past years?

Oh yeah.

Um, fitness wise and strength wise.

Um, and like I say,

like we've tried a couple

different things this year

and I think they're really paying off.

And, um,

Injury-wise, too.

Last year, at this time,

I was still dealing with

that calf that was just hampering me.

Knock on wood, going into semis,

I'm feeling really good.

We talked to Scott Tetlow yesterday,

and he actually backed off

volume this year.

He said it's the first time

he's going into semis with

a clean bill of health right now.

Yeah.

It's,

it's shocking at this level that to

not have something that's nagging.

I mean,

that's not to say I haven't had

injuries throughout the year.

Like I had a bad shoulder

injury right after

Wadapalooza and that took a

while to clear up.

Even going into the open, I wasn't great,

but yeah, it's, it's good now.

So feeling good.

Noticing a trend with

Wadapalooza and injury.

Yeah.

Maybe that's one you should

take off the list.

But it's so fun.

That was so fun.

And then we go for a cruise after.

It's just such a good trip.

So I want to get into both

of those things.

We've talked about it in the

past about doing every one

of the big three in the offseason.

You're one of the few people

that have done that in the past.

At one time we talked and you said,

you're not sure you're ever

going to do that again.

And then this year you do it again.

Yeah,

I think this year was the only year

that I did all three.

I would argue two years ago

you did all three.

Did I?

Geez.

Yeah, not the plan this year.

Okay.

Well,

now I know why you did it again

because you forgot you did

it two years ago.

I did forget.

Yeah.

Yeah,

because we actually we had a

conversation about it and you said,

I'm not doing that again.

And then here we are two

years later and you did it again.

Wow.

OK, well, I won't do it again now.

So.

So you have a perspective of

hitting all three.

What do each one have that

the other ones don't that

make it worth going to?

I think, like I said,

Wadapalooza is just super fun.

It's probably like the most chill,

the most like party kind of atmosphere.

And it's warm in Florida in January.

It's a great time to leave Canada.

Yeah, that one's just all about more fun,

I would say.

And then Rogue is just great

because it's such high level.

You know,

it's always the top people from

the games.

Um, for me,

it's a really good challenge

because usually it's quite

heavy and like more strong

men kind of stuff.

Um,

and they also treat the athletes great.

Like they pay our way.

They put us up.

Um, yeah,

we're really treated really well

at Rogue.

So that's a special experience.

And then Dubai is just cool.

It's Dubai.

Like Dubai is so cool.

Such a cool city to be.

And, um, again, it's warm in December.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's just cool.

Like there's no other

opportunity probably that I

would go to Dubai.

Um, so yeah, it's a good opportunity also.

So you always,

you seem to piggyback

vacations or holidays with

these competitions.

And I, I've seen on your Instagram,

you did a cruise after Waterpalooza.

Did you do anything after

the other events?

So Dubai,

last year we went to Germany on

our way back.

This year we had to come

straight home because we

had to go to work.

And then after Rogue, oh,

we also did a cruise.

So yeah, we had a riot.

We had a blast on that cruise.

And I think it's just, one,

we work full-time jobs.

So if we have the vacation

off to go there anyways,

we just tack on a few extra days.

Um, that works out.

And then I take the week off

after I compete anyways.

So it's fun to just travel

and just not be sitting at

home for that week.

So I've never been on a cruise.

You did too last year when

you went to rogue,

did you go somewhere other,

did you do a cruise out of

Texas or did you go somewhere else first?

No, we flew back to LA, which was almost,

yeah,

halfway home and then went out to LA.

It was actually,

we booked that cruise after

the games and we actually

missed it because we missed our flight.

So yeah,

we um thank goodness for

american express we got got

our refund and then booked

it after rogue cool so

where did that one so where

did the two cruises go that

one was like la mexico

catalina island just around

there and then the one

after guadalupalooza is to

bahamas and back okay and

the private island stuff yeah super fun

Awesome.

And do you need that after

competitions to just kind of rejuvenate?

Yeah.

I mean, I don't need, I'll say I need it.

I don't need it, but I like it.

It's just nice to have some downtime,

especially because Kyle and

I are going through everything together.

He's my coach as well as my husband.

So it's nice for us to just chill out.

Yeah.

Still my favorite story is

when you guys had an

interaction as coach

athlete and he was writing

the apology as husband

while you were on the competition floor.

Yeah.

Sometimes it's like that.

Yeah.

Um, wide zombie jumps in with,

are you excited to have go

rock sponsoring the games?

Yeah, of course.

So when I signed with them was last year,

around this time, maybe a bit earlier.

I had no idea.

I don't know if they,

if it was in the works then or whatever,

but I had no idea that they

were going to be sponsoring the game.

So when that happened, I was like, oh,

cool.

It's like,

not like it's the brand that's

going forward,

but it's like kind of cool

to be a part of that.

Did you have a talk with

their newest athlete that

this is your house?

I did not yet.

Yeah.

I'm the OG.

No, it's super cool.

I mean,

of course Tia brings so much to the

table.

So yeah,

it's cool that like the two

athletes are me and her.

Yeah.

But does she have to always

go with the sponsor of the games?

Apparently she does.

Man.

Give other people some dude.

Yeah.

Now, I think that's really cool.

And you've talked about how

cool they are with you and

that you've actually had

input into the design of

some of the shoes and stuff like that.

Yeah.

Yeah,

so they've – and they're super receptive.

So, like,

when their first trainer came out,

there was a couple of

things that I really didn't

like about it.

Like, my heel was slipping out.

And so I told them that,

and they fixed it right away.

And now their trainer is, like, amazing.

So their runners are great too, so –

Hopefully we can do the same

with their clothing.

How many pairs do you have?

Too many.

The closet is full.

Yeah.

And was last year at semis

the first time you got to

like sport them?

Yeah.

So it's been a year.

Yeah.

That's really cool.

Mm-hmm.

And then I've seen their clothes.

They've always been a major part at Rogue.

And the one year I volunteered down there,

I sat right outside their booth.

Their stuff is really cool.

Really well made.

Yeah, their stuff,

I like it because it's kind of like...

I don't know how to say like

kind of grindy, kind of like military,

like hard ass, like that kind of stuff,

which is really good.

We're just,

I think they're going to

continue working on the woman's line.

And I think because a lot of girls,

they like color and they

don't want to be like dark all the time.

And that was one of the main

things last year.

I was like, okay,

like you got to have pink.

You got to have some pink somewhere.

So then they came out with

that like bright pink backpack,

which Kyle was sporting

throughout the games, which was great.

I love it.

Yeah,

we captured that in some of our

footage and stuff.

Yeah, he was easy to find.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, Greg Pasley says, uh,

go rock makes an excellent product.

Several people, uh, wide zombie.

Emily is my favorite.

Oh, uh, Barry.

Emily is my favorite too.

Uh, so yeah,

lots of people cheering you on

in the chat.

So, so now you have a,

it seemed a much shorter

time from quarterfinals to semis.

Um,

does training have to change this year?

Do you have this Kyle have to like,

actually, um,

you can't use the template

from last year because it's

just different timing.

Yeah, I mean,

we're just continuing how

we're going because I felt

great going into quarterfinals.

Quarterfinals went fine, went well.

We're just continuing what

we're doing because it

works and I feel good.

So I'm actually pleased

semifinals are closer.

Like I don't need another

two months of training before semifinals.

Like I want to go.

And we talked about like

when I said how you feel,

you said you've changed

some things and your

fitness is high as well as your strength.

So it's a well-known fact.

Your whole has always been strength.

Right.

How much time do you spend

on improving that?

A lot.

Like that's like my top energy.

And you'll ask any athlete,

like your weakness,

that's what you have to work on, right?

Like I don't go for runs ever.

Like, I never run.

My last big run was, I guess, Rogue,

and then the 5K at the Games.

And my next big run will

probably be if we run at the Games.

Like, I don't run.

So, yeah, I think a lot of strength,

a lot of, like,

power output kind of things

we've been doing this year,

which really seem to have helped.

Um,

and I think like it shows that workout

floor on the quarterfinals,

like I'm closing that gap slowly,

which is, that's all I can,

I can ask for.

So that's encouraging.

And mentally, when you're looking at that,

like you're never going to

lift like Danny Spiegel.

No.

Right.

Right.

You're just trying to get to

a point where it doesn't

hurt you on the weekend.

Yeah, exactly.

Like I said,

like we're just trying to close that gap.

Yeah.

Yeah.

it's funny because like a

few years ago I go to Christy Aramo,

Connell's gym and I watched

her like that was all she did.

Like strength cycle after

strength cycle after strengths.

And she was just trying to

get to mid pack.

Yeah.

Like that, that was it.

Is that the same approach

that you're taking?

Yeah.

And I think, um, yeah, pretty much.

Um,

Like I say,

we've been doing a lot of like

power things.

Strength wise, I'm not terrible.

It's more the power output,

which we've really been focusing on.

And that seems to help not

only in that area,

but in other areas in CrossFit too.

So it's good.

So I'm going to pull something up.

At Rogue,

you seem to be working on the

strength or something in that manner.

This made me just how

because it seems so out of

character for you.

But your little promo video.

I forgot about that.

It just seems so out of character for you.

And I just laughed and I had

to bring it up somehow through this.

It's a pretty good double bicep flex,

though.

It definitely is.

And it shows that you've

been working on some strength for sure.

Yeah.

And I think,

especially after my arm injury,

like I had to rebuild all

that up and at the time it wasn't fun,

but now I'm like reaping

the rewards from that.

Like I'm way stronger than I was before.

I'm just focusing on those little things.

So that's fun too.

But yeah, that, that at Rogue,

you're like in a green room

and they're like, Hey, do something.

And you're like, yeah,

And if you don't have a plan

or remember what you think

you were going to do,

you just kind of... I don't know.

Throw up the peace sign or do a flex.

The flex looks awesome.

And the way they slow-mode it,

it made it even cooler.

And Rogue is so awesome at that stuff.

Yeah.

They're very professional.

They always make the athletes look good.

So...

So when you do all those

off-season competitions,

how much of that is a

learning process and an

experiment process?

Oh, a ton.

That's,

that's kind of when the time is to

do it because you don't

really want to be

experimenting when you're

trying to make the games.

And obviously you train all

year to peak at the games.

So that's like,

unfortunately you do

experience a lot and

experiment a lot at the games, but yeah,

the off season is when you

want to try new things and

see what's been working and

see what hasn't and yeah,

all that kind of stuff.

And I learn a ton every time.

Like there's always so many

things to take away that we

put back into training.

So that in that way,

it's really beneficial.

So for you,

like rogue is important because

that is experiencing and

experimenting with things

that you're working on.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

It makes total sense.

And they have the best swag

bag in the business.

Yeah.

I still wear my cowboy boots

that we got a few years ago.

It's so funny because either

people love that or they're like, yeah,

I gave that away as soon as I got home.

Oh, heck no.

I went to a country concert

like two weeks ago and rocked them.

It was great.

Like...

that's where I was actually

stationed when I because go

ruck was there the the

fitting for the hat and the

boots and all that stuff

was kind of in that one

corner and uh I watched

everybody come in and get

fitted and it was so funny

oh I bet like and then and

then I worked media for the

weekend for rogue just

trying to learn stuff but

for that day I was

stationed in there and it

was really really cool yeah

so and then we talk about um

I want to I have a question

about dubai I watch it on

tv or stream and it looks

like there's nobody in the

crowd yeah is it just is

there nobody there or is it

just bad camera angles so a

bit of both so they do

condense the crowd to like

the end of the finish line

like think if you're

watching a hockey game like

where the goal like that area and

um so there's that and then

there's also like the

stadium they do it it's

pretty big and you're right

like the crowd isn't there

like in the u.s not at all

um and I think mostly

because it's so far like

people yeah it's it's far

and it's expensive to get

there so and and it's and

it's crossfit isn't as big

in the middle east or no okay

Not for girls anyways.

I think there's a lot more men that do it,

but not women.

Okay.

Is there ever an uncomfortable feeling?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So it wasn't this year.

It was the year before we went.

And our luggage got lost for

like four days.

So Kyle and I had no clothes.

All I had was one pair of

workout gear that I put in my carry-on.

So I was just hand-washing

that for a couple days

until we got some stuff.

And I remember we were

walking home from one of

the gyms that I was

training at just like on the,

on the road.

And of course I'm in my

workout gear and yeah, they,

you get a lot of stairs.

I mean, they're not used to seeing women.

I guess you could say like scantily clad,

like in shorts and a tank top,

like they're not used to seeing that.

Right.

So of course people are going to scare.

They're mostly covered there.

Right.

Like, Oh yeah.

Yeah.

that just seems odd to me,

but I know that that's the

culture and that that's

just the way it is.

But so then what a Palooza

I've always called that the

CrossFit family reunion,

because it's just everybody

who's in the space is there

that weekend hanging out chatting.

How hard is it to actually

then go compete with kind

of all of that going on?

Or are you really good about

putting your blinders on

and just doing what you're there for?

Yeah, I mean, like you say,

I've heard from people like

that's the most fun crowd to be at,

like more fun than the games.

People just love Wadapalooza.

But yeah, for me, it's not hard to focus.

Like when I'm competing, I'm competing.

And I've been lucky the schedule,

like usually it's two day indie,

two day team.

And this year I only did indie.

So I compete two days and

then I have two days to

just hang out with people

and do what I want after.

Do you have sponsor

obligations during that time or?

Sometimes.

Okay.

Yeah.

I had a few events lined up this year,

but yeah, it makes it fun.

Cause I, I,

I think there's more sponsors

at Wadapalooza than there

are at the games.

Yeah.

And,

and I know like I've talked to some

athletes where they're busy

on their off day as much,

if not more than when they're competing.

Oh yeah.

Like some people just

couldn't do teams because

they had like meet and

greets lined up all day.

And it was like,

It's insane.

If they could just fix the weather.

I know.

The rain, like, man,

it's so hit and miss with

the... It's either super

nice or it's torrential rain.

Yeah.

Two years ago, it was freezing cold.

Was it?

Well, not for Indy.

By the time the weekend came for teams,

like, it was...

I didn't, I didn't have a jacket.

Cause you know,

coming from the North to Miami,

you're like, I don't need that.

And then it got down to 40, like,

what's that?

Like 10 Celsius for you.

Yeah.

That's cold.

Yeah.

It was really, really cold,

but you had injured your

calf and like withdrawn from the team.

So I don't know if you were, Oh,

it was that year.

Okay.

Yeah.

I was still around limping around.

Yeah, if they could just fix the weather,

that would be epic every year.

Yeah.

So now you're going to semis

at one of the most iconic

locations in CrossFit history.

You never got to compete at

the games in California.

So how excited are you to

compete at the tennis

stadium where CrossFit was

kind of birthed?

Yeah,

when I saw that it was going to be in

Carson at the tennis stadium,

when did they announce that?

Like, way back in November or something.

I was stoked.

I was like, man,

this is going to be so cool.

Like, as you say,

I think the last games

there were maybe 2016?

I don't know.

I was barely into CrossFit then.

I didn't make regionals until 2017.

So...

didn't really watch I

remember it playing um on

on the tv at the global gym

I was going to um and I

remember like looking a bit

but like not wasn't even

like in it by then and then

um yeah looking back I see

all this stuff and I'm like

wow like yeah I'm super

excited it's gonna be so

cool I love I love

competing outside I love

that added element so

that's really cool too

So you said when you started CrossFit,

you weren't really watching it.

No.

How fast did it take you to

dive into all of the stuff?

Very quick.

As they say, I drank the Kool-Aid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember seeing it on TV.

Someone at the gym was like, oh,

you should do that.

I was like, no, whatever, ignored it.

And then, yeah,

once I actually did a class or two,

I was like, well, this is, I'm in it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I started in CrossFit in 2011,

had no clue what the games were.

And then in the games came around in 2012,

like I was hook, line and sinker.

Yeah.

I think most people are like that.

Like you just get,

it's so addicting to like

keep getting better,

keep learning new skills.

Yeah.

It's just super fun.

when I'm,

and imagine when you first

started in a class,

every day is a competition, right?

You're, you're new to it.

You're competing with the class.

You're trying to do as well

as everybody else, you know?

Right.

And then coming in from like

a background of gymnastics,

track and field,

like I knew how to weightlift.

Like it was just,

everyone likes doing things

they're good at.

Right.

So you come in,

you're already pretty good.

People are like, Oh,

it's like the open next month.

Like, okay, sign me up, I guess.

Yeah.

For me,

it was trying to master new skills.

Even though some of the

stuff I was okay at, I mean,

I started at 500 pounds,

so it was a different story than you,

but learning how to master

those skills over time is

what kept bringing me back.

I mean,

I was a competitive swimmer in high

school and college,

and to get that competitive

spirit back was everything to me.

yeah I was the same like

when yeah it felt like I

was back in gymnastics

competing so I can't

imagine coming in fresh

though without any

weightlifting background or

like never having done

gymnastics like the people

that come in from that

that's pretty impressive

like that must be so

overwhelming to learn all

that like I can't even imagine

Yeah.

So I, I mean,

I did have some lifting background.

It was more power lifting lifting.

And I did, I was very athletic as a kid.

I had a sport in every season and,

and I actually flirted with

gymnastic stuff just for fun.

Okay.

Like doing flips and stuff.

So I,

some of that muscle memory came back.

Right.

But I ask you,

then you go to becoming a pro athlete.

And a lot of times you're

working out by yourself.

So are you addicted to competition?

And is that one of the

reasons you keep signing up for Rogue,

Dubai, Wadapalooza?

I never really thought about that,

to be honest.

That's a thought.

I don't think, I love competing,

obviously.

And yeah,

like most days I'm down grinding

in my dark garage alone.

Like, that's no fun.

But I was thinking the other day,

like it makes you train so hard.

If you,

if you can push yourself through it,

you train so hard because, you know,

Kyle's making these

interval split times and

these goal times and goal

reps and like things that I

need to hit in the workouts.

And I'm just killing myself

to make those times.

And I think if I had someone beside me,

I would be a lot more, Oh,

just stay ahead of them or

just race them.

And you kind of don't go to

your full potential.

Whereas when I'm racing the machine,

what it says on the concept to machine,

or I'm racing the clock, like there's no,

you know what I mean?

Like you just push so much harder.

So I feel like if you can

put your head down and be like, yeah,

it's not as fun.

Cause I'm not laughing and

joking with someone and you know,

Um, but if you can push through that,

like I think training's actually better.

So I can relate to that

because in swimming, everything's,

everything's intervals.

Yeah.

Like everything.

And you're not,

you're not swinging against

one-on-one against anybody.

There's like six people in a

lane trying to keep that

same interval going.

Right.

Right.

And so it's not a competition.

Then when the meat comes,

like then I'm in a zone.

Cause like now I get to

release all that competitive.

This and that meat.

Yeah.

I'm just curious if that was

the same for you,

like with water Palooza and.

Yeah.

I guess in a way it's,

it's way more fun to

there's 10 other girls.

Now we get to race.

Like that's way more fun than, you know,

trying to hit these times

that Kyle set out for me

that are really tough, you know?

So yeah, I guess so a little bit.

And, and your fun,

we've talked about this

before is you're like one

of the nicest people ever

when you're just kind of hanging out,

coming off the competition floor and,

You give this look like I'm

going to freaking kill you.

Coming off or going on?

Probably both.

I just don't have access to coming on.

Okay.

That looks worse.

And I interview a lot of

people after events.

Very few of them scare me like you do.

Sorry.

I wasn't aware of that, Scott.

I'll work on that.

I mean, I pushed through.

I pushed through for the interview.

But man,

it's hard for me to remember the

questions because you give

the death stare.

Yeah, I guess just, yeah, in the zone.

And I can't imagine Kyle

getting on the wrong side of you.

Yeah.

You should ask him.

Jake Chapman asks,

is Emily coming to rogue?

I would love to.

We'll see.

Usually they do invites after the game.

So yeah.

Come in the top 10,

15 of the games usually

have a pretty good shot

unless they decide to do it

differently this year.

I don't know, but Scotland's pretty cool.

Jake's in Europe,

so that's what I'm asking.

They're excited that Rogue

is coming there.

Kyle B and Carson?

Of course he will be.

Pink Backpack?

Pink Backpack and all, yeah.

You can only buy him one year, though,

because I don't know if we

told you this story.

There was a competition here

called Canwest Games.

And he coached me,

but it was like a hot weekend.

It was super hot.

There was a beer garden at

the competition.

And you know how you have a

lot of time in between events, whatever.

He would just disappear.

And, you know,

we had friends there and whatever.

And then he'd come back and

I didn't really think anything of it.

And then I realized he was just hammered.

And when he was coaching me and I was like,

what is wrong with him?

And

Yeah, never again.

But I won.

I won the competition.

So that's his saving grace.

He's like, oh,

I still coach you to the W. But yeah,

not again.

That sounds like a fun time with Kyle.

Kyle's always a fun time.

Wadzomi says Canwest was the

one with the big prize money, right?

Yeah, the one that fell through.

But this was before it fell through.

So this was like 2017 or something.

2018 I think yeah it was

actually around for a long

time before the big fiasco

it was and it was a great

competition I mean when I

won the prize money was

three thousand dollars so

it was a lot less than what

they promised a few years

ago um but yeah it was

really really a good

competition when it was

going there for a few years

a wad zombie said he's a

big dude he can do two beers

And then Jake says,

isn't he English or Canadian?

Yeah, he is from the UK.

So yeah,

I know you guys can put away

alcohol like no other.

So, um, wow, that got us derailed.

So

So I wanted to ask you this, too,

about quarterfinals.

With the reduction in from 60 to 40,

did that enter your mind at all,

or was it just, I'm good enough,

I don't have to worry about that?

Yeah, it was,

I'm going to make it through.

Wasn't worried.

I actually like that they cut people.

Sounds savage, but yeah.

I would rather they cut it to 30,

to be honest.

But yeah, so when that was announced,

I was like, sweet, that's good.

Um,

I would say the only concern was just

like, I remember saying to Kyle, okay,

like we can't afford, you know,

a large penalty or, you know,

screwing up my video or like,

we just have to make sure

we're doing everything, um,

the way it's meant to be done.

Just like take care in the small things.

So when we went up to 60 a

couple years ago, the thought was, boy,

it's going to be tough

because if you do really bad in one event,

a 60-place finish would be

hard to come back from.

Yeah.

I mean, we saw Sydney do it.

We did.

Last year was such a weird,

weird programmed year.

it had all these like traps

that people couldn't get past.

Yeah.

And so a lot of people had bad scores.

Yeah.

There was a lot.

Like if you look at the

people who made the games, people,

there were very few

consistent all the way through people.

Like people were like

bouncing all the way around

in the events.

Um, so yeah,

who knows what this year will bring.

So, um,

Is the 40... Are you excited

about the 40 because it

kind of has a safetiness to it where,

well, you can't fall too far?

I think just it takes away

some of the outliers.

You know,

the people that can make it

because they're really good at one thing,

but they can't do other things.

Or, you know, like 40 to 60,

a lot of those people, you know,

they're just super strong,

but they're not fit at all.

Or, you know, they have other good things.

And I think it just...

I don't want to say get in the way,

but they can kind of skew

the leaderboard in some events.

So yeah,

it's just good to get rid of that.

Yeah.

I like what you're saying.

I hate that we don't get to

know more athletes.

Yeah, so as an athlete that competes,

I don't want to say I don't care, but,

like, that's my thought on it.

But I understand, like, you know,

those athletes that are just over the 40,

you know, what do they have?

They're so close to semifinals,

but they just can't get out

of the virtual, like, the online,

you know.

So, like, for that, you know, really,

40 to 100, like,

they're still good athletes.

It's just tough to make semifinals, so...

you know,

it would be cool if they had like a tier,

you know, semifinal one,

semifinal two or something

like that would be cool.

So they can just, cause people, you know,

so many people thrive

competing live and aren't

good online or the opposite, you know?

So it'd be nice to give those,

those athletes an opportunity.

Yeah.

I've been, you know,

I was on coffee pods and

wads yesterday for their game show.

And one of the things is how

do we attract more people

to North America semis?

And I was thinking like,

wouldn't it be cool to have

like an event right before the event?

Like the 20 that didn't make it in,

you get like these three

workouts and the number, whoever wins it,

it's a wild card into semis

or that'd be fun.

just something to like bring

more people there and

something dramatic to do

right before the event yeah

that'd be cool I mean they

have the event or I mean

okay so they have to set up

an extra day early or

something but they have

everything there it's

already all the equipment's

there like you know the

people are there it's easy

to add on really

you don't have to stream it.

You just let people come watch,

set it up in the Plaza or the, you know,

whatever.

Um, and they get in,

but they're kind of at a

disadvantage because they

just did three workouts,

but they get a shot.

Yeah.

Cool.

I like it.

Just something I've been

like flipping around in my

head since the game show yesterday.

So, um,

So yeah.

So the other thing that the

reduction 40 does is if you

guys get 10 in again this year,

25% of the field go to the games.

Yeah.

That's high.

I mean,

I don't know if we're getting 10

this year, but right.

Probably a bit less, but yeah, that's,

that's a big,

that's a big chance you get

really when you only had to

pass the online portion.

I get what you're saying there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like the old regional

format where three or five got in,

but it was just your region.

But it was 40 went, right?

40 people?

Yeah.

The last few years, I went to sanctionals.

And I think there were 30

and I won and I made the games.

And then the online games,

I was top five out of, I think 40.

And then 2022,

I was top five out of 30 again.

Last year I was top 10 out of 60.

Like it's,

I feel like every year that I've

qualified,

it's been a different scenario.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, that gives me confidence.

It's like, okay, whatever it was,

like I somehow jumped through the hoops.

And got it done.

You can file a heart attack

as well as your fans.

Yeah.

But you always make it in.

Standard.

So what are you most looking

forward to in Carson?

I thought the programming

for quarters was really good.

I did too.

I hope the set is also good like that.

Like...

Yeah, there was strength and skill,

but it was like fitness.

Yes.

It's like why we all love CrossFit.

Yeah.

Do you think they'll

continue that on for semis?

I think somewhat.

I mean, there's going to be change.

It's going to be heavier.

It's going to be harder skill, I'm sure.

But I mean, you never know.

I never try to predict what

there's going to be.

I don't want to say that's Kyle's job,

but it's kind of his thing

to make sure I'm kind of

ready for everything come game time.

yeah, whatever it is,

you got to go out and do it anyways.

So, yeah.

So I'm going to,

I'm going to finish with

like two off questions.

And that is,

this has really been the year

for women in sports.

If you're following other women's sports,

the women's NCAA tournament

outrated the men's NCAA

tournament for the first time in history.

If you look at college NIL in the States,

women are in the top 10 in

NIL money with the men.

How does it feel to be part

of a sport that's always

looked at women as equal?

when you say it, it's like, wow,

that's super cool.

Like, but yeah, I mean,

we're used to it because

it's always been that way.

So you never really think anything else,

but yeah, you look at, I mean,

basketball is huge right

now with Caitlin Clark, but like,

yeah,

you look at what they're getting paid

versus the men.

And then I would say

CrossFit's almost the opposite.

Like,

I remember my mom was telling me she

was watching one of the

comps just streamed.

And, you know,

they had the top 10 girls

and the top 10 guys on the

same floor competing together.

And it was mostly watching the girls.

And she was like, I wanted to see Pat.

And I barely like it barely

even showed Pat because it was all girls.

And yeah,

we're in sports bras and booty shorts.

And maybe that that sells a little bit.

But I think we're almost the opposite.

Like people watch the girls

more than the guys.

I agree completely because

and it's to me like.

For the most part,

the women are more

approachable when I go to

like talk to them or do a podcast.

The men aren't as approachable.

It's harder to get them on the show.

And so my leaning is because

I get to know you guys more

than I get to know the men.

So I want to watch because

all the people I've gotten

to know over the years are women.

Right.

Not all.

I mean, there are exceptions, but.

Yeah, it makes sense.

If you know a person, you know their story,

you know what they've gone through,

like you're way more as a fan,

you're way more invested in that person.

Yeah.

And so I just think it's cool.

And I think it's this tide

that's coming where women

are doing as well as men in

different things.

And I think it's cool in

college here in the States,

name image likeness money,

women are doing as well as the men.

Yeah,

and I think that's partly thanks to

social media too.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's cool.

So the last question I'm

going to have for you is, again,

Carolyn Prevost joined us

on our Thursday night show.

She takes a lot of pride in

the fact that she's an

athlete who's also a

full-time employed worker.

Right.

You are as well.

Mm-hmm.

How much pride do you have

that you're doing all of

these amazing things and

you're working a full-time job?

Yeah.

I mean, I think it's cool.

And a lot of people, you know,

I do get a lot of credit for it.

Like people are always saying,

and people forget like

Carolyn does it too.

I don't think she gets quite

the hype that I get about it,

but she's also doing it.

She's working at, she's a teacher, right?

Full-time.

That's full-time.

Yeah.

So yeah.

Again, I honestly think, you know,

aside from some nights and, you know,

I honestly think it helps my training.

Like, I wouldn't be, you know,

as soon as I wake up, like,

going to the garage,

doing a hard interval session.

Like, if I didn't work that day,

I wouldn't need to do that

session and then get to the

gym at a certain time and, like...

I would waste so much more time.

I think it's natural for humans.

The more time you have,

the more time you waste.

As a result,

my training is more productive.

It's more intense.

That's helping me as an athlete.

Honestly, my job helps me.

It's funny.

Scott Tetlow said the same

thing yesterday.

He's active military.

He has 90 minutes a day to

get his work done.

Right.

And so he goes and he does that.

And then if for some reason

he gets a break,

that's when he works on like his holes.

Wow.

That's a lot less time than I have.

So I definitely a lot more

training time than that,

but good for him.

That if he had more time,

he doesn't think he'd be as efficient.

No, you're not.

Cause like, you know, you finish a workout,

you're tired, you take a drink,

you go on your phone for a bit, you know,

you talk to other people,

like you can waste so much time,

but I'm like, okay, no,

at two o'clock I need to be

in the shower.

So this piece takes 20 minutes.

This take like,

everything's mapped out to the T. Well,

and at a competition, um,

you're not,

you don't get to choose when you can,

when you work out or when you,

I've done a few competitions,

specifically the games last

year when we had to have

that condensed schedule for ESPN or SPN,

the TV, whatever it was called.

Yeah.

And people were hurting, like,

not to say I was just like, I'm fine.

But, you know, I was used to it.

I was like, Okay,

this is how I train every day.

Like,

I don't need a long five hour break

in between.

And like, it's, it's,

it's good to just like, prepare for that.

Yeah.

It's kind of funny.

And I think Carolyn's the same way.

Her lunch hour is one of her sessions.

And then she doesn't get to

choose when it is.

It's when her schedule opens up.

And it just makes you more

flexible during competition time.

And I think it's a byproduct

of being a full-time employee.

It is.

And like, I noticed that all my days off,

you know,

sometimes I spend the whole day

at the gym, but you know,

I was half as productive as

I was on my work day.

You know, it's just like.

When you go to the gym and

you work out in your garage, what,

what does the gym give you

that the garage doesn't?

Just high ceiling things.

Rope climbs, muscle-ups.

You know,

I can do the little seated

muscle-ups here,

but bar muscle-ups I can't do here.

I'll smoke my head on the roof.

Just stuff like that.

And then just... It's a good

change of scenery.

So I'll do one session here and...

you know, there's, there's other people.

We have our gyms like half boxing gym.

So there's a bunch of people

fighting in the back and yelling and,

you know, it's just like some different.

Wow.

That's,

we had one of those in Columbus and

it closed half boxing, half CrossFit.

Now it's just CrossFit and

they moved out of that building,

but that would be insane.

Do you miss the gym if you

can't get in there and you

just have to do garage or vice versa?

no because the next day I'll

be at the gym like I'm

still at the gym five days

a week um the month after

the games like I didn't

think I i don't think I

went to the gym all of

august last year and then

all of august the year

before when I had my arm

injury um so a little bit

then and I think that's

just the people I think you

miss just being social

that's just yeah social

aspect do you ever miss the

parking garage

No, but sometimes I'll say to Kyle,

I'm like, man, I was so hard.

Like I remember that bar

used to be ice cold some

days and I would have to

wear like I'd put on gloves

and be squatting with like

gloves on because the bar

was so cold and like going

outside before my night

shift into the like, man, I was so tough.

You've softened up over the years.

Well now, I mean, the garage is in winter.

It's still not warm,

but then I think of that

and comparatively and I'm like, Oh,

I have a light here.

I don't have cars driving by.

Like I'm not half outside.

Like it's pretty good.

Sucking in the exhaust fumes.

Yeah.

Sucking in the fumes, wind coming in.

You finally got all that

cleared out of your system

and that's why you're

improving every year now.

Yeah.

It's like smoker's lung.

I got rid of it.

yeah uh wad zombie says I

imagine canada just always

being ice cold that's what

yeah we we live in igloos

pretty much I mean for

salmon and yeah hunting and

gather it's the hunting and

gather lifestyle here

Well, Emily, as always,

it's been awesome having you on.

Can't wait to,

hopefully I can get to Carson.

They have not approved media yet.

So I have no idea like what's going on.

Okay.

So fingers crossed for you.

Yeah.

Hopefully I can get out there.

But I heard you told,

you told me via DM that you

had already made your plans and

Assuming you were going to make it.

Yeah.

Confident.

Yeah.

Kyle booked my flight.

He was going to book it like way before,

but I was like, just wait.

And then, yeah,

as soon as I finished quarterfinals,

he just booked it.

And then, like I say,

and then all the penalties

came out and I was like, but yeah.

Well,

you've learned that you have American

express and like, if you need to refund.

Yeah.

They're awesome with that.

So there you go.

Well,

thank you to everybody in the chat

for being here.

Thank you to Emily, as always,

for just being a great

friend and always coming on the show.

We love you all,

and we'll see everybody

next time on the Clydesdale

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Bye, guys.